Curse

laksa and curry · Mar 13, 2010, 10:54 AM // 10:54

Hi to all my fellow monk Pve fannatics out there.
I am sure everyone on this board know abt UA HB WOH hybrid based builds.

I am sure most of you are pretty sick of them.

I am currently doing a little of tinkering.

Please give me your valuable inputs.

14 prot
13 divine fav

Life sheath
divine healing/ shield of absorption
seed of life
prot spirit
GOLE
aegis
remove hex
rez/reversal of fortune

Please do not turn this thread into a HB UA or WOH glorifying thread.

Mistical miss · Mar 13, 2010, 11:32 AM // 11:32

Divine healing isn't worth a spot on this bar, since the healing isn't too amazing without UA, but shield of absorption would be great.

A res is probably preferable over reversal of fortune, since reversal would kill your energy really quickly, life sheath is enough for spammable prot heals I guess.

This would probably work.

ajicorath · Mar 13, 2010, 12:35 PM // 12:35

Not far off what I generally run in PvE tbh.

LS / PnH
RoF
SH
SoL
PS
Aegis
EBSoH
EBSoC

I love EbSoH, as long as it's placed around your casters it's super effective.

IronSheik · Mar 13, 2010, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Life sheath
Aegis
Shield of Absorption
Prot Spirit
Seed of life
Air of superiority
Divine Boon
Selfless Spirit

12+1+1 Prot
12+1 Divine, use +4 headpiece to cast Divine Boon.

maxxfury · Mar 13, 2010, 04:07 PM // 16:07

My personal fave: been running a version since the first few days of factions.

AP-BOONPROT
[Assassins promise] @8
[prot spirit] / [spirit bond]
[seed of life]
[shield of absorb]
[aegis]
[divine spirit] / [selfless spirit]
[divine boon]
[reversal of fortune]

Or a healing variant replacing rof + boon for patient + kiss and speccing some points from prot to heals. Does wonders protting pve with enough energy to abuse PS provided you arent crap at micro+multi task and fail at using ap with some efficiency (which really isnt hard at all to play in truth)

lets you go longer and harder than any other monk bar, provided the area isnt heavily loaded with hex removal, then its suggested to not rely on hex's in general anyway.

mistokibbles · Mar 13, 2010, 04:13 PM // 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronSheik

Life sheath
Aegis
Shield of Absorption
Prot Spirit
Seed of life
Air of superiority
Divine Boon
Selfless Spirit

12+1+1 Prot
12+1 Divine, use +4 headpiece to cast Divine Boon.

/thread. Though, I like Restore Condition better, I tend to spam LS too much cause i'm a nub..

Zodiac Meteor · Mar 13, 2010, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Replace Life Sheath with Assassins Promise.

Recharge got nothing on monk.

ac1inferno · Mar 13, 2010, 08:06 PM // 20:06

If you're tired of UA, HB, and WoH, then definitely like what Zodiac Meteor said, go AP Boon Prot:

[build prof=Mo/A prot=12+1+1 divine=10+1 Deadly=8][Assassins Promise][Reversal of Fortune][Protective Spirit][seed of life][Shield of Absorption][Optional][Aegis][Divine [email protected]][/build]
- [[Selfless Spirit]
- [[Divine Spirit]

Axel Zinfandel · Mar 13, 2010, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Bonding FTW. There's just something awesome about it.

JDRyder · Mar 14, 2010, 03:54 AM // 03:54

meh..... ap is zzzzz

Mend con
RoF
Guardian
SoA
Divine boon
CoP
Revealed hex
Energy drain

I like running these builds together

Healing light
Pat spirit
Guardian
PS
Aegis
Dismiss con
spotless mind
SoA

Ran with

Healing light
RoF
Dkiss
SB
Aegis
Dismiss con
Cure hex
SoA

Here are some others I like. I got sick of Basic builds myself like 3 years ago

LoD
Patient spirit
Dkiss
Healing seed
Spotless mind and soul
vig spirit
and whatever you feel you need depending on the area, GoLE, PS, w/e

Sig of D
RoF
SB
Dismiss con
Deny hexes
Remedy signet
divine boon
Scribes insight

Vig spirit
Dkiss
Pat spirit
Divine intervention
Spotless soul
Spotless mind
CoP
Healers covenant

AoF
Pat spirit
Dkiss
PS
Dismiss con
Cure hex
SoA
Whatever you feel is needed.

ZB (meh not quite like WoH imo)
RoF
Guardian
PS
Dismiss con
remove hex
SoA
Castigation signet

Healing burst
Pat spirit
Dkiss
Healing seed
Dismiss
Cure hex
SoA
What you feel is needed.

Blessed light
RoF
SH/Guardian
PS
MC
SoA
Aegis
GoLE

Those should keep you entertained for a good while.

Khomet Si Netjer · Mar 15, 2010, 04:42 PM // 16:42

lots of good ideas in here, but I don't think anyone has mentioned this combo yet: Glyph of Lesser Energy + Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom + Aegis

simple but effective... near-permanent Aegis prevents a lot of damage.
With your 20% enchant weapon each Aegis lasts for 12+ seconds, and if you have a 20/20 offhand or a staff (and max Ebon Vanguard rank) you have ~66% chance to have Aegis getting HSR, so you should be able to cast it again as soon as it goes down most of the time. The glyph covers the energy cost of the whole chain so it's pretty easy to manage.

AndroBubbles · Mar 26, 2010, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Aura of Faith
Spirit Bond
Seed of Life
Shield of Absorption
Aegis
Dismiss Condition
Remove Hex
Glyph of Lesser Energy

carbajac · Mar 26, 2010, 10:47 AM // 10:47

For the LS bar, I usually run

Kiss
Patient
LS
Prot Spirit
Cure Hex
Optional (Remove Hex)
Seed of Life
Rebirth

WarcryOfTruth · Mar 26, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Everywhere in PvE, I have used the following for 2+ years (as long as I've been playing):

10+2+1 Healing
10 Prot
11+1 Divine

Glimmer of Light
Seed of Life
Dwayna's Kiss
Shield of Absorption
Patient Spirit
Protective Spirit
Selfless Spirit
Renew Life

Although sometimes I change my res.

I monk EVERYWHERE with that, Normal mode, Hard Mode, UW/FoW/DoA/Urgoz/Deep. I've done it all, no problems. I have never used Healer's Boon and in fact it is still locked on my account, UA is alright I suppose, however.

Lanier · Mar 26, 2010, 08:02 PM // 20:02

This is an old build I used to use when i used to monk in 4 man areas like old ascalon HM (and in ABs). None of the skills have changed, so it should still work well.

Boon Signet
Signet of Devotion
RoF/SoA
Dismiss Condition
Guardian
Life Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Blessed Signet

I know its not a LS build but it actually works pretty well and its original. E-management really isnt a problem with Balthazar's Spirit and the passive energy management from the healing sigs. Just maintain Life Bond on your teammates, BS on yourself, and really you shouldnt even have to use Blessed Signet except for outside battle (or if you face energy denial or if your spirit gets stripped).

A. Noid · Apr 06, 2010, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndroBubbles

Aura of Faith
Spirit Bond
Seed of Life
Shield of Absorption
Aegis
Dismiss Condition
Remove Hex
Glyph of Lesser Energy

I've used something like this that was pretty effective.

Aura of Faith
Divine Boon
Dismiss Condition
Seed of Life
Shield of Absorption
Selfless Spirit
Cure Hex
Aegis

The bonus heal from AoF combined with the bonus heal from Boon can be pretty stout.

-ANoid

AndroBubbles · Apr 09, 2010, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistical miss

Divine healing isn't worth a spot on this bar, since the healing isn't too amazing without UA, but shield of absorption would be great.

A res is probably preferable over reversal of fortune, since reversal would kill your energy really quickly, life sheath is enough for spammable prot heals I guess.

This would probably work.

Disagree. 5 energy for a divine favor linked party heal means even a prot monk has access to decent party maintenance. When I enter an area that's low on priority hexes, I let my heal monk bring cure hex and I run Divine Healing/Heaven's Delight.

Erikir · Apr 18, 2010, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Boon Signet
RoF
Prot spirit/Spirit bond
Dismiss/mend condition
Aegis
Ether Signet (use with low energy set)
Mantra of Inscriptions
Air of Superiority (Standard of Wisdom might be better here, or hex removal)

Chthon · Apr 18, 2010, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndroBubbles

Disagree. 5 energy for a divine favor linked party heal means even a prot monk has access to decent party maintenance. When I enter an area that's low on priority hexes, I let my heal monk bring cure hex and I run Divine Healing/Heaven's Delight.

With or without UA, Divine Healing/Heaven's Delight is not worth a spot on any bar. The heal is barely 50 even at 13 Divine on a 15 sec recharge. That's not a big enough spike heal take make a difference, and its heal/time (3.375 heal/sec/person) is strictly inferior to other skills at only really low attribute ranks -- Mending [email protected] (4 heal/person/second), Well of [email protected] (4 heal/person/second) -- not to mention skills that seriously outperform it at medium or high attribute ranks -- Vigorous Spirit, Blood Bond, Dwayna's Sorrow cast on minions, PwK, Life, Rejuvenation, Recuperation, Aria/Ballad/Chorus/Finale of Resto, and more.

The only time I would ever consider using one of those skills would be in an AP build where the recharge stopped being an issue. However, AP builds have access to Seed of Life on the same instant recharge.

FoxBat · Apr 20, 2010, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chthon

and its heal/time (3.375 heal/sec/person) is strictly inferior to other skills.

Yes, except you'd have to bring one of those non-monk characters just for that purpose. That's the point of saying "5e on a prot monk.", as opposed to bringing a motigon that does party heals and nothing else useful.